Tidus the one · Jul 29, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

To me, the Dervish and the Paragons are too powerful. This can cause imbalances among other classes. Before the update, warriors were the alpha physical damage dealers. Now, dervish are even stronger and better. Compare to the warriors, their scythe's maximum damage is 41, even more than the hammer. They really need to fix this.

Rite · Jul 29, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29

When I tested out the Dervish, it seemed that while I could hit 76 on one player, if I hit more than one player, my damage was divided equally between the players, making me half as strong if I was hitting a second person, and so on... The paragon is very easy to kill...

Phoenix Arrows · Jul 29, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

This is just a preview. If they really are overpowered, they will get toned down.

BTW, wrong forum I think.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jul 29, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Paragon has lvl 80 armor, fwiw.

I agree that these classes look pretty uber so far.

jimmy_logic · Jul 29, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Monk/Paragon is something that I rubbed my hands when I saw the skills.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jul 29, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43

P has some nice self-heals from its own skillset.

fiery · Jul 29, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Of course they will have skill balancement and will be nerfed.

jimmy_logic · Jul 29, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

fiery... stop swinging the nerf bat around already. Let us enjoy this

hehehehe

TwinRaven · Jul 29, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

watch the strike times of the Dervish weapon...a bit slower than hammers me thinks...no nerf needed if the striking time is slower eh?

Shadowfox1125 · Jul 29, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

I'd think that it would be slower than hammers because the weaps do 7-41 and have permanent AoE..

VGJustice · Jul 29, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

After farting around with both for a few moments (all the time I could afford the two classes :< ) I've determined that both feel pretty overpowered. Likely they'll be toned down for release, but I think that both will still be a worthy addition to the lineup even after a Nerf pummeling.

Phrozen_ · Jul 29, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Hammers are slower (1.75s)

Scythes (1.5s)

I would say its still balanced tho since hammers have knockdowns.

Numa Pompilius · Jul 29, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Of course they were overpowered. This whole event was a commercial for Nightfall, both classes *will* be toned down for the actual release.
The exact same thing happened with rits and assassins under the Factions PvP weekend event.

baz777 · Jul 29, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44

I've found that SS works well on both

Jul 29, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10	#1
Tidus the one Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005	Opinion on new classes To me, the Dervish and the Paragons are too powerful. This can cause imbalances among other classes. Before the update, warriors were the alpha physical damage dealers. Now, dervish are even stronger and better. Compare to the warriors, their scythe's maximum damage is 41, even more than the hammer. They really need to fix this.

Jul 29, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#2
Rite Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Switzerland Profession: R/Me	When I tested out the Dervish, it seemed that while I could hit 76 on one player, if I hit more than one player, my damage was divided equally between the players, making me half as strong if I was hitting a second person, and so on... The paragon is very easy to kill...

Jul 29, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34	#3
Phoenix Arrows Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: With many other ugly people Guild: We Are All Pretty [ugly] Profession: R/	This is just a preview. If they really are overpowered, they will get toned down. BTW, wrong forum I think.

Jul 29, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#4
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	Paragon has lvl 80 armor, fwiw. I agree that these classes look pretty uber so far.

Jul 29, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40	#5
jimmy_logic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: R/	Monk/Paragon is something that I rubbed my hands when I saw the skills.

Jul 29, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#6
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	P has some nice self-heals from its own skillset.

Jul 29, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45	#7
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Of course they will have skill balancement and will be nerfed.

Jul 29, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#8
jimmy_logic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: R/	fiery... stop swinging the nerf bat around already. Let us enjoy this hehehehe

Jul 29, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#9
TwinRaven Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	watch the strike times of the Dervish weapon...a bit slower than hammers me thinks...no nerf needed if the striking time is slower eh?

Jul 29, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40	#10
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	I'd think that it would be slower than hammers because the weaps do 7-41 and have permanent AoE..

Jul 29, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#11
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	After farting around with both for a few moments (all the time I could afford the two classes :< ) I've determined that both feel pretty overpowered. Likely they'll be toned down for release, but I think that both will still be a worthy addition to the lineup even after a Nerf pummeling.

Jul 29, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31	#12
Phrozen_ Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Hi Tech Nednecks [HTR]	Hammers are slower (1.75s) Scythes (1.5s) I would say its still balanced tho since hammers have knockdowns.

Jul 29, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12	#13
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Of course they were overpowered. This whole event was a commercial for Nightfall, both classes will be toned down for the actual release. The exact same thing happened with rits and assassins under the Factions PvP weekend event.

Jul 29, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44	#14
baz777 Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South East England Guild: Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell] Profession: E/	I've found that SS works well on both